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Electro Harmonix "Big Muff" - Guitar or Bass version?


Hi guys

Firstly I'm fairly new to here so I'm really excited!!

My scenario is this.

I play bass for a NSW band called "Sluice" (www.myspace.com/sluicetheband if your interested). I am a big fan of the distortion effects that Magic Dirt use (particularly Dean) and I'm after a really good distortion/fuzz type effect. After researching I actually managed to find Dean's pedal line up and found the Big Muff amongst it. I also managed to find Adalita's line up too and also saw a Big Muff.

My question is this (I hope you don't mind my asking) - Did Dean ever use the bass version of this pedal or the standard guitar version? (is there any difference anyway?) and also are there any particular MD songs that use this pedal (guitar or bass - doesn't matter) so I can see and judge if this pedal would be best for me.

The sound I'm really after is a hybrid of
*Ice
*Anything from either Tough Love or Snow White
*Grab your head (particularly during the solo with the wah pedal)
*Sucker Love

Thank you heaps

Kevin T.

P.S. I'm thinking about one of these to - http://bmdfriendsinforum.runboard.com/t150
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Re: Electro Harmonix "Big Muff" - Guitar or Bass version?


well... it's complicated!

take a look at this website. http://www.kitrae.net/music/music_big_muff.html

there are heaps and heaps of different big muffs out there, even though they are pretty much the same.

deans main big muff was a 'civil war' version, made in russia in the mid 90s. this is the same type as rauls main big muff. i think, going from photos i've seen, dean also used other american made big muffs at certain stages but i'm not sure.

the russian big muffs, quite often commonly known as the 'green' big muffs, have a lot more bottom end than the american ones.

if you are going to be buying a new one, the 'bass' muff will probably do the trick. don't worry though, it probably doesn't really matter, just try them out and pick the one you like the best.

its fine to use guitar pedals for bass in a lot of cases, your ears are the best judge of whether its working or not! and in the cases where they aren't perfect, you can put them in the loop of the big bottom pedal, which you should definitely buy emoticon
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Hi Steve

Thanks again for the advice!! I'm saving my pennies as you read this emoticon

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Hi All

I have great news but it comes with a slight twist in the tale (a good twist though mind you)

I recently went to Sydney to try out a Big Muff at one of the stores. However upon arrival I found out that they did not stock any Electro-Harmonix stuff emoticon . I had checked their website but it kept loading with errors whenever I clicked on the effects section so I figured I'd have to go up to find out.... emoticon

However I found out instead that they had something called the "Way Huge Swollen Pickle" - a jumbo fuzz pedal made by Dunlop. I put it through its paces for both guitar and bass and I was pleasantly suprised. Tried it with a wah and it sounded even better. Then I found a MXR EVH (Eddie Van Halen) signiture Phase 90 sitting next to the fuzz. This gave me a very close sound to "Supernova" (MD).

So about $500 later I now the proud owner of a new fuzz and phaser pedals. I've also managed to pick up a Vox V847 Wah of Ebay recently to, and funds are currently being set aside for the Big Bottom. Things sound soo good right now!!!!

Thanks again for your help - keep rocking

Kev \m/

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Excuse the late reply.

I'm a bass player in exactly this dilemma - using guitar pedals on a bass rig can be fraught with perils. In particular, watch out for pedals that soak up all your bass sound. That was always my problem.

I used an Electro Harmonix Double Muff, which gave me two different levels of "muff", that's a pretty grand pedal. I also had a really bass-heavy Boss Heavy Metal pedal - uh, the HM-2 I think off the top of my head. They were my two best distortion pedals (and you might hear some in action here: www.mp3.com.au/maddolly)

I used others, including a custom-built by my electronics genius guitarist which was a fuzz box on one side (featuring a noise decay fade-out which stopped excessive feedback when used, really great sound to it), and an envelope filter on the other which did all sorts of wierd fun to my sound. I also used a Boss flanger to do more interesting things as well, and until I broke it beyond repair a Morley Wah, but that never quite did justice to my bass sound. There was also an overdrive pedal, but again, soaked up bass sound.

Most of this last lot reduced my low-end a lot. One solution to this though is the Tym Guitars Big Bottom. I've still not managed to try one out because I've not been playing in so long (sad) but it's worth a solid look if you're using guitar pedals. Everyone I've spoken to who's used one swears by it, and even now in my unemployed musical state, I'm considering getting one, just in case someone wants a fat old fart to play bass in their band emoticon

Enjoy your new gear, well, not so new now, but enjoy it nonetheless emoticon

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